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What is it about Radiohead, anyway? Every time I pick up a new Radiohead CD (or in this case, "borrow" the mp3s, thanks to the Japanese version being copy controlled and ultimately useless to an iPod owner such as myself), I start out unimpressed but gradually grow to like it and eventually fall in love with it. I'd been listening to Kid A and Amnesiac a lot over the past few weeks, and when I finally got HTTT I felt like it didn't quite live up after the first few listens. However, now that I've gone through it a couple of dozen times, I'm really into it and feel like it's right up there with both of its predecessors. This exact same thing happened with both Kid A and Amnesiac when I first got them as well.
In any case, I'd like to stick a big middle finger up to whoever decided to copy control this CD in every region outside of the U.S. because your plan backfired and wound up costing you a sale from what would've been an otherwise guaranteed purchase.
john_tv: hail to the thief is growing on me
john_tv: a lot
john_tv: like all radiohead albums do
GG-Duo: yeah, same
GG-Duo: i mean, i feel the same way :]
john_tv: sadly i had to *** this one
john_tv: but that's their fault for making it copy protected
john_tv: so stupid.
john_tv: if i cant stick it on my ipod, im not gonna buy it, ***s!
john_tv: i dont feel bad at all either. make it a hassle for me and im just gonna go the other route.
john_tv: i already bought three of their cds and i woulda bought this one too
GG-Duo: yeah... i know what you mean
john_tv: you know
john_tv: i wonder how many people are in the same boat as me
GG-Duo: i bought the Special Edition... but all canadian copies have copy control
john_tv: id guess maybe not too many
john_tv: but it has to nag them that they lost out on a sale
john_tv: i literally went to the store with the $$ in my pocket with the sole intention of buying that cd
GG-Duo: you mean "not buy it cuz it's copy controlled!"
john_tv: and i saw the 'copy control' sticker and turned right back around
GG-Duo: ?
john_tv: yeah.
john_tv: i mean, maybe a lot of people do pirate stuff regularly, but not me
GG-Duo: i've seen quite a few topics on Radiohead forums talking about the same thing
john_tv: im on the other side
john_tv: im one of the faithful who gets screwed
GG-Duo: right. and it's not the band's fault either... apparently all future emi releases are going to have copy control
john_tv: i kinda wish i could tell them. im sure they hear it a lot tho anyway.
john_tv: id feel better tho :)
GG-Duo: the whole thing is stupid
GG-Duo: mp3s are freely available
GG-Duo: the copy protection isn't foolproof
GG-Duo: and it's such a hassle if you want to take it back
Dude, I was EXACTLY the same! I got the preview version a while back through the usual channels. Then when it came out on CD I was all ready with the money in my wallet until I saw that the Japanese version AND import versions both have Copy Control. I listen to music on the Mac at work, which just won't even read copy control CDs, and I listen to music through my PC at home. It was such a bad move considering half the fans had heard it on the Internet first, anyway.
Posted by: JonnyRam at July 16, 2003 09:28 PMwhat the...? what's that conversation doing here?
*blushes*
I think I'll pick up the American Regular Edition eventually... so I can have a CD with no Copy Control, and also the alternate booklet.
teehee. =]
Posted by: GG-Duo at July 17, 2003 12:24 PMSame over here in Austria/Europe.
The Perverse thing is, After I ditched my last CD-Player (it went broken) and replaced it with a shiny new Audio-DVD-Player.
Now look at this: I cant play an Audio-CD, because, the copyprotections disturbs my DVD-Player, my Car-HiFi is a 20x CD-Rom drive with 16 MB Ram ( do not work on CD-Rom drives) and on the Computer eighter.
So the only thing I can do is to start CloneCD takes around 4 houers to read, and then BURN a copy of the copyright protected CD ... then I can play it.
I mean, this stupid copy protection stops me from playing it but i still can COPY that thing!!!
No thanks, if they want to lose me as a customer, fine ... for me its AudioDVD ... Item not available on AudioDVD, fine, handle me the mp3!
Posted by: Newromancer at July 21, 2003 04:59 PMi bought KSK from shiina ringo (emi, same copy control thing) and it's also useless in my sony discman (mp3 and normal cd's)... i figured the thing is not a computer, but in fact it's just the same crap...
Posted by: yledm at August 4, 2003 08:57 PMyou don't even use a CD player, why should it matter if it's copy protected or not? Sure you can't rip it from your actual CD (even though I did with mine and had entirely no problem with the protection...)
Posted by: bullet at August 9, 2003 08:25 PMI finally bought the CD today - I found the special edition with the big fold-out map, so felt it was worth the extra cash. I can't play it but at least I have something to look at while I listen to my MP3s :)
Posted by: JonnyRam at August 11, 2003 03:19 PMEasy way around copy protection for PC users: Buy the legit CD with the copy protection. Go to http://www.poikosoft.com/ and get Easy CD-DA Extractor. Rip the music (it was designed for copy protected CDs so they all work with it) and ta-da! Another strike at the RIAA. I don't know if there's a Mac version of this out, nor anything else like it for Mac, but if you know someone with a PC they can take care of this for you.
Posted by: priest of b at August 28, 2003 12:06 AMI have used CDex which has also shown absoloutely no problem when it comes to ripping Cd protected CDA's, I haven't installed that silly software that comes with it (HTTT that is), which may interfer with the ripping process, but who knows. It takes exactly the same time to rip as any other CD would as well. Stupid EMI, Stupid Stupid poopy heads....
Posted by: Daniel at February 10, 2004 04:50 PMI agree with people on this forum that the record companies are cutting their own throats when it comes to people who want to legitimately buy CDs. I've got one copy protected disc (Japan's Gentlemen Take Polaroids). I bought it over the net and I ended up with the Canadian CP version (I'm in the UK where the album isn't protected) and never again. Where I would have bought an album, like others on here, if I see it's a copy protected disc (surely that should be 'restricted use disc'?) then I won't buy it, but will rather find the album in my music library and copy it down an analogue line to my MD player and that will be my only copy. Their loss. Thankfully, the new George Michael album, Patience (in the UK) is a regular, good old-fashioned CD, so I went out and bought it this week, at a reasonable price. I've also copied it to an MD for my personal use when I'm out and about, for convenience of size and so that the original doesn't get damaged. Perhaps there's a lesson there. Incidentally, why do Sony make copy protection systems on the one hand, and manufacture MDs, blank CDs, CD writers and blank tape etc. on the other? Puzzling.
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